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Yes, Your New Car Has A 'Black Box.' Where's The Off Switch?

NPR -- If you're a vehicle owner and happen to have a car accident in the near future (we hope you don't), it's likely the crash details will be recorded. Automotive "black boxes" are now built into more than 90 percent of new cars, and the government is considering making them mandatory.

Dave Wells, a detective at the King County Sheriff's Office in Washington state, specializes in accident reconstruction. That means he's often crouched under steering wheels, looking for the connector that mechanics use to get diagnostic codes. But Wells is using a different kind of tool, and it pulls out a very different kind of information.

Reading a sampling off his laptop, he says, "In the first 10 milliseconds they're up to a half-mile-per-hour acceleration."



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Submitted Mar 21, 2013 By: BurntOrange
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SkooterG
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 4:06:49 AM

Scary stuff. Big Brother is here.
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AmmoManAaron
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 6:09:50 PM

My car, my business, my privacy. There should be an off switch.
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sydb7
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 4:34:54 PM

Big Brother is watching! Any information will be used against you!

[Edited by: sydb7 at 3/21/2013 4:36:19 PM EST]
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GenChick
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 4:29:17 PM

I would suggest that data would be only kept by black box for maximum two days!!! I don’t want all my life to be recorded and used against me by insurance company to deny my claim!!!
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Double_Golden
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 4:10:33 PM

yes, I need the off switch, I don't want to be monitoring how am I driving around...
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wamster
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:57:26 PM

I have one in my 2010 vehicle. I agree with WillyG's comment.

My husband was involved in a seven car pile up. He rear ended a pickup truck with little damage to the truck, but our hood was caved into the radiator. Before cell phones were around; he carried a camera in the car. He took pictures of both vehicles.

When the truck's insurer told us the caved in damage to the truck was expensive and the driver was hurt; we were wondering what happened. Apparently the truck owner took a sledge hammer to the back of his truck and tried to blame the damage on us. My husband sent the photographs to our insurance company. They apologized and said not only were they not going to pay for the damage to the guy's truck; they were also filing charges against him for filing a false insurance claim.
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MDTDriver
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:55:36 PM

No new cars for me.
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briinnc
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:50:46 PM

Until we make political candidates sign upfront for what they're standing for, and sue them in a court of law if they don't, we're going to get bug brother into every detail of our lives.
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njerald
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:49:18 PM

Nothing new except to low information drivers...........
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geezrtek
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:48:50 PM

Big Brother is here.
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myambro
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:48:34 PM

Gov't does not have a right to this info.
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RobertSpratt
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Huh, I thought she was a natural red head.
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jl1rp
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:43:39 PM

We are in the big brother state now and it's just getting started.
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LtRTH
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:43:27 PM

I don't have a problem with these if they are only used during the investigation of a fatal accident or an assault where the vehicle is used as a weapon.
Problem is that such restricted use won't be the case.
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Gramps001
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:42:51 PM

WE need a 'Black Box' that will save US from Gov't!
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jony
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:42:42 PM

not mine, I have no new car
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snell snail
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:39:53 PM

...thank you NPR...upload all data..........
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:38:45 PM

Orwell could read the tendencies of the libs, and new them well.
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rjoeh
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:38:27 PM

I can see the positive and negative sides of these devices. Until the privacy issues are cleared up with justification... the right to turn them off should belong to the owner or at least give them the right to control how the data is used.
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goblueia
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:37:52 PM

Big brother watching again. The prelude to gps for charging taxes for miles traveled.
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:37:46 PM

Doesn't bother me.....
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WillyG
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:37:35 PM

That's good ! It'll keep a lot of dishonest drivers honest. I'm sick and tired of the drivers causing accidents and lying through their teeth about the facts.
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:31:28 PM

probably be a few years before the black box appears on bicycles
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:30:53 PM

very good
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:28:50 PM

Interesting
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:25:00 PM

I'm trying to avoid accidents by trying to avoid all the distracted drivers....HELP !!!
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:23:53 PM

It sure is one way to actually fine out how is at fault.
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:23:51 PM

We don't need any more Big Brother in this country. If I wanted to live as a communist, I would move to China.
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:22:02 PM

whats the big deal
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rodzilla123
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:21:02 PM

More of Big Brother Intruding into peoples lives. OMG I long for the 1950's and a simpler easier life!!!
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:19:25 PM

It will only become more invasive. And what if it malfunctions?
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CTarp
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:12:21 PM

Mine has one. What is the big deal?
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:09:09 PM

And the prices of cars keep climbing.
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:08:06 PM


Interesting.
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Orwellian State is here
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:08:00 PM

Well I don't have anywhere near a new car, so that counts me out.
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:08:00 PM

Your rights went away with the Bush "Patriot Act" only to be continued by the current administration.

Big Bro is here, live with it....
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:07:50 PM

understand a black box in a commercial airliner or any other form of public transportation, but leave it out for privately owned/operated vehicles.
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redtruckaz
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:04:36 PM

Yes all new cars have black boxes. Some Rental companies check the box after you retun the car to see if you left the state and how fast you drove. If you drove over the speed limit they have and can report you the police and put you on a black list for renting from them again.
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mister_russ
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:02:13 PM

As long as the data can't be accessed remotely and it is encrypted, I'm OK with it.

Wait what's that? It's not encrypted and ANYONE can access your data while it's in the shop? How long will it be before insurance companies will pay a bounty for freelance intelligence on drivers from repair shops when no one is looking?

Sound far fetched? Ten years ago, did you worry someone would hack your Face-book account?

Sleep well.
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:01:29 PM

What can we do?
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:01:03 PM

Is it orange as well ?
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geeeeeeg
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 2:59:32 PM

big brother get bigger
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mrselfdestruct
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 2:57:08 PM

It's none of their business, until you use your car as a weapon.
So as long as they have to dig the info out a wrecked car I'm ok with this.
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sdiddydaddy
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 2:55:37 PM

Just make the whole car out of the black box.
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sdiddydaddy
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 2:55:19 PM

Hopefully this helps solve complex accidents. Not sure what else it will do though.
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 2:54:53 PM

Love it. Just wish the truck that T-boned me had one.
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 2:51:23 PM

more people die every year in auto crashes than in plane crashes, and "black boxes" have been required on all planes for decades.
I'm all for privacy, and I don't like big brother looking over my shoulder all the time, but there comes a point where yours and other's physical &/or mental safety trumps personal privacy.
Personal privacy no longer applies when the safety of others or self-destructive behavior, which potentially generate or lead to harm to others comes into play. Suck up your bellyaching, moaning, and complaining. The First & Fifth Amendments do not give you the right to harm others.
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GenChick
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 2:46:55 PM

Soon they will make a good excuse and put the chip in our body!!!
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munkeyciao
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 2:46:02 PM

Why's it such a big deal?
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 2:43:53 PM

They only record vehicle operation data, they don't report/record location.
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