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Reliance on natural gas fuels risk to grid

New Hampshire Union Leader -- New Englanders braced for the coldest weather of the winter the week of Jan. 21, knowing temperatures were going to dip below zero. What they didn't know was that controllers of the New England power grid came dangerously close to imposing roving blackouts due to constraints on the supply of natural gas that fuels most of the region's power plants.

Then on Feb. 8, as the region braced for Winter Storm Nemo, it happened again.

"If we had lost one more big generator or a transmission line, we would have had to resort to our emergency procedures," said Vamsi Chadalavada,..."Those procedures are to call on help from neighboring areas, then to call for voluntary conservation, and if that's not sufficient, to institute controlled power outages ... We came quite close."


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HawaiianGuy
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 7:11:24 AM

Sounds like cries of "Wolf!" from the anti-fracking liberals. Go figure.
tomok
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 2:42:47 AM

Reliance on natural gas fuels risk to grid? If the natural gas pipeline is too small to deliver the increased amount of natural gas needed to keep the regions power plants or generators running, there will be times when Not enough electrical power is being generated for the demand. Improve the capacity of the natural gas pipeline or risk brown outs or roving power outages. There is plenty of natural gas being recovered from the nations deposits and there should be NO supply shortages!
Drive vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
musicreporter
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 1:08:23 AM

ok
Pmgr
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 1:04:24 AM

ok
danreino
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:39:37 AM

Just shut everything down like they did back in the U.S.S.R
Packman3231
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:38:11 AM

Changes is fuel is going to affect some grid of supply.
CdnLynx
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:35:07 AM

Aviator Rob - I totally agree.
This is the 21st century, coal is a four letter word that needs to be archived; coal is not a viable energy source. Even the Chinese are discovering that coal will not be the answer, pollution from this is too much for both the environment and health.
Transportation of natural gas (NG), or any liquid fuel, is the problem. In the pursuit of crude for gasoline, many wells hit NG, that many companies just burn off, as they have no way of collecting, storing on site and then any ability to transport to NG processing plants. Some companies don't even burn, some will just let it escape into the upper atmosphere, which destroys the ozone layer.
We are wasting vast quantities of NG needlessly. It might be better to leave NG in the sub-terrain until such time it can be processed properly and not needlessly wasted. Remember many of these well-heads are in remote areas, where they don't have storage/pipelines from every site, some roads a goat could not use. At present we are not doing a good job of capturing NG, it really needs to improve sooner then later!

[Edited by: CdnLynx at 3/19/2013 12:38:33 AM EST]
rahcat
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:33:44 AM

Don't complain.....fix the problem.
DanMtz
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:31:25 AM

Yes, change can be painful.
JasTheAce
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:30:42 AM

hmmm
obimerrill
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:29:58 AM

Government restrictions have limited our ability to generate enough power and gas to meet demand. And Obama keeps forcing producers to shutter generating plants due to environmental concerns in spite of the demand so this will only get worse for at least 3-5 years!
Zonk
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:29:22 AM

Life is a risk every day that you are alive.
Suzzoom
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:29:20 AM

Another reason why I'm glad I no longer live in New England.
tedjm1
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:28:32 AM

They need more power plants, protection from power outages.
gsayeg1
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:28:28 AM

lot of natural gas up that way
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:27:46 AM

We live in constant danger.
FlyNFool
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:27:28 AM

It's a good alternative.
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:27:04 AM

More options...not less
10k
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:25:35 AM

and who woulda been blamed for this ??..
mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:23:41 AM

A bit scary.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:22:46 AM

No easy answers here, @rx7racerca. People turn on the TV and see another housing subdivision go up in flames because some road crew ruptured a gas line. That would make anyone a bit uneasy if someone said they want to put a natural gas pipeline in their backyard.
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:22:38 AM

m'kay
PrinceLH
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:22:03 AM

Another shortsighted assessment!
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:20:16 AM

BS
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:19:53 AM

WOW!
comprof
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:19:48 AM

Typical jump without planning ahead. You have to have adequate distribution systems.
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:18:09 AM

I think it's BS
SparkieMi
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:17:53 AM

There is some thing wrong here!!!! What is the real story???
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:17:37 AM

what
BobD2009
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:16:32 AM

Sounds like they need another gas pipeline.
rx7racerca
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:16:10 AM

It takes a long time to get a pipeline built - less because of the EPA, and more because of the NIMBYs.
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:14:51 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:13:18 AM

zzzzzzzzz..........!
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:12:57 AM

Liquifying or compressing natural gas isn't cheap, @jkpsr. The electricity suppliers need to keep costs to a minimum if they want to maximize their profits.
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:12:56 AM

Hard to imagine.
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:12:49 AM

old news
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:12:46 AM

This is somewhat scary
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:11:46 AM

Ok
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:11:04 AM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:10:48 AM

Yesterday's news. . .
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:09:53 AM

How about they stop selling it across the globe.
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:09:35 AM

Old news
GasholeMI
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:08:55 AM

Not a good sign for the NE.
jkpsr
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:08:30 AM

Why can't the railroads bring in unit tank car trains with LNG or CNG?
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:06:44 AM

hmmm
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:06:40 AM

Bring on the new.
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:06:03 AM

Old
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:03:41 AM

let's get her done
Dawger007
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:00:40 AM

This is a regional distribution problem you can't handle the load if you don't build the generating plants and supply them with fuel
Busymomma56
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:00:33 AM

It's been a tough winter.
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There's always something.
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