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Compressed natural gas: A trend on the horizon

Philly.com -- Exhibit A: On Oct. 30, at the behest of the gas industry and other potential fleet customers, Chrysler's Ram Truck division began building a pickup powered by compressed natural gas (CNG). This heavy-duty Ram 2500 4X4 Longbed thus became America's only factory-built CNG pickup.

Exhibit B: Honda, which lays claim to this country's only factory-assembled CNG pleasure car, the Civic GX, greatly expanded that vehicle's sales arena for the 2012 model year. Available previously in only a handful of states, the GX can now be purchased at 197 dealerships in 36 states.

It takes more than two wind gusts to qualify as Hurricane Sandy, of course, but these developments at Ram Truck and Honda could well be the harbingers of a significant growth in the use of CNG vehicles in this country. The fact is,

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,609 Points:1,608,545 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 12:02:37 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse gotta definitely have more stations before CNG takes off for non-fleet vehicles.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,609 Points:1,608,545 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:53:26 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse until more stations are built, there's no way for me to go for a CNG vehicle (not that I'm in the market for one).
rrs517 All-Star Author Colorado Posts:918 Points:343,505 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 2:21:15 PM Ignore rrs517 Report Abuse This is old news
jrs4125 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,753 Points:590,770 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 6:43:09 AM Ignore jrs4125 Report Abuse This too shall pass.
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,963 Points:2,116,640 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 6:29:36 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse "...the GX can now be purchased at 197 dealerships in 36 states." That's all good, for a start...
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,986 Points:2,344,535 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 5:42:42 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Compressed natural gas: A trend on the horizon, as more and more vehicles are built to use natural gas OR converted over to natural gas, more natural gas will be used and the price will go up, just like the morning sun. Don't expect natural gas to stay low for very long, the trend for all fuel prices is always up and up more! It does Not matter if you have to heat your house with it either, higher natural gas prices coming. An article on here said that less natural gas is being produced because there is NO profit to keep drilling and producing natural gas. Less CNG Supply, Higher NatGas prices coming! Big Oil and Big Gas exports fuel and natural gas to other countries that will pay more for it, much more than here. That Canadian pipeline will export that refined crude oil (fuel) and natural gas by way of the refineries on the Gulf Coast. There will be NO price reduction or cheaper prices for fuel or natural gas IN the US, so it does NOT matter how much crude oil or natural gas is produced. Honda has the Civic GX. Get a refill kit for the home natural gas pipeline and fill it up at home. If you are traveling, know where your natural gas refill stations are and plan according. There are many online sites that have CNG refill stations located across the US for people that have to refill their CNG vehicles. Plan your trip with those stations on the route. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII!
TBONE3 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:8,741 Points:1,975,675 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 1:44:41 AM Ignore TBONE3 Report Abuse Would be nice to have CNG from what I ear and read BUT I'm not sure the average customer is ready to handle such an explosive product.
MAC48 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,546 Points:765,945 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 1:33:08 AM Ignore MAC48 Report Abuse Apparently the author of this article does not know that GM and Ford are also building bifuel gasoline/CNG 3/4 ton extended cab pickups. Typical example of a reporter actually not knowing the subject area about which they are writing. It would be nice if these bifuel ¾ ton pickups sell well enough to convince Chrysler, GM and Ford to expand the bifuel concept to their crew cab offerings in addition to the extended cab coming out this model year. A ¾ ton bifuel 4x4 crew cab pickup with a 6.5 foot bed would be of great interest to us. The 650 mile range is a big plus as well. It would also be a great plus if the CNG fuel tank was mounted under the bed on the opposite side of the gasoline fuel tank freeing up the bed space now used in the current production models by the CNG fuel tank. The exhaust pipes and muffler can easily be rerouted in the space remaining. If you are interested in seeing if any CNG stations are near you, check out the website below and click on the fuel pump icon to see a national map of where there are public CNG fueling stations currently. www.cngnow.com
Z51Corvette Champion Author Austin Posts:8,480 Points:1,670,195 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 12:59:32 AM Ignore Z51Corvette Report Abuse Oh spare me! This is like spitting in the wind! CNG vehicles... please! Does anyone have any idea how difficult it is to fuel one of these vehicles... It will take special pumps, and a higher level of handling... don't think the American public is smart enough for this.
mrselfdestruct All-Star Author Arkansas Posts:992 Points:166,775 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 12:22:26 AM Ignore mrselfdestruct Report Abuse Alternatives are good, too bad they all lead back to the same masters
firefly09 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,497 Points:716,700 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 12:20:48 AM Ignore firefly09 Report Abuse Oh Boy! What next???
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,487 Points:1,509,105 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 12:05:36 AM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse Stand by for the tax collector. I suspect some of the magic of CNG will quickly disappear when the gummint gets more involved.
Mowerman08 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:4,755 Points:1,217,020 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 12:04:53 AM Ignore Mowerman08 Report Abuse Still have to get Detroit on board!
arb0526 Champion Author Greensboro Posts:1,971 Points:408,895 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 12:03:44 AM Ignore arb0526 Report Abuse ok
Buddy2264 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,649 Points:2,358,995 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 12:03:14 AM Ignore Buddy2264 Report Abuse I can see CNG for fleets now where they can fuel them at a central location, freeing up other fuels for family vehicles for now.
stueyAZ Sophomore Author Phoenix Posts:212 Points:23,730 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 12:02:14 AM Ignore stueyAZ Report Abuse lol
blazerbob91 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,140 Points:1,882,695 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 12:00:19 AM Ignore blazerbob91 Report Abuse As long as they keep frackin
dollarwatcher Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:7,940 Points:1,534,245 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:56:21 PM Ignore dollarwatcher Report Abuse At home gas pumping? Better check with your insurence co.
69Bonne Champion Author Gary Posts:1,145 Points:472,175 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:55:35 PM Ignore 69Bonne Report Abuse Work out the safety issues and then it should grow.
melvindale Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,438 Points:351,230 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:54:25 PM Ignore melvindale Report Abuse Wow! 3 out of 5 articles are all on natural gas. Could have been named topic of the day. This one discusses the trend toward natural gas vehicles being finished at the factory rather than going to an upfitter to add the system the manufacturer did not bother engineering. This suggests that numbers are expected to climb. Either that, or the price of parts for the system have gotten really low, so the manufacturer makes significant money doing it themselves. Other articles are about fill it at home natural gas pump for homes. Not new. What is new is only $500. That makes it cost effective. The third suggests the natural gas glut we are in will lead to exports which will lead to higher prices.
papou Champion Author Tampa Posts:10,874 Points:1,905,135 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:50:11 PM Ignore papou Report Abuse Getting too technical for the average American public
Fitwit Champion Author Stockton Posts:6,394 Points:1,354,895 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:49:43 PM Ignore Fitwit Report Abuse They ought to be real selective in who they allow to drive those big auto's. They can be lethal weapons.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,984 Points:1,111,375 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:49:42 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse NG is the next step...
Wanda127 Champion Author Florida Posts:2,494 Points:914,030 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:49:03 PM Ignore Wanda127 Report Abuse Not sure about the safety of this one.
vrossi46 Champion Author San Jose Posts:2,672 Points:804,920 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:44:37 PM Ignore vrossi46 Report Abuse hope it becomes a viable alternative
vibdata Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,084 Points:848,325 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:39:54 PM Ignore vibdata Report Abuse Behest. Yes, this is a really fancy word. Don't really think they behested anyone except the customers they rip off daily.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,061 Points:1,730,260 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:39:09 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse great gm will stink at this also
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,207 Points:517,550 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:38:53 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse Build the infrstructure.
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,294 Points:596,645 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:37:13 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse ok
southrob Champion Author Tucson Posts:3,590 Points:686,225 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:36:54 PM Ignore southrob Report Abuse dhan quick!!
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,120 Points:1,353,810 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:31:03 PM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse NOT IF THEY BAN FRACKING!
HailstormCA Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,850 Points:1,471,045 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:27:48 PM Ignore HailstormCA Report Abuse Yahooo!
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,847 Points:1,612,025 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:25:27 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse Consider the recent explosion in Indianapolis, most likely caused by a natural gas leak. I’m not having any of that stuff around my house!!
Holly123 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:3,197 Points:789,235 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:18:43 PM Ignore Holly123 Report Abuse Okay
PoohMcGoo Champion Author Alabama Posts:3,067 Points:799,835 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:17:51 PM Ignore PoohMcGoo Report Abuse There have been CNG powered trucks for years, just not made for the masses.
MINIWINI598 Champion Author Washington Posts:3,012 Points:517,725 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:16:26 PM Ignore MINIWINI598 Report Abuse We'll see
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,795 Points:817,360 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:14:46 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse Something else I can't afford...
CCLighthouse Champion Author Hartford Posts:1,003 Points:213,030 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:12:56 PM Ignore CCLighthouse Report Abuse I will watch from the sidelines!
Cellsite Champion Author Appleton Posts:1,226 Points:286,160 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:11:25 PM Ignore Cellsite Report Abuse That's right, @knot2swift. And it's walking in the White House.
investmentdr Champion Author Cleveland Posts:4,024 Points:1,454,075 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:11:00 PM Ignore investmentdr Report Abuse Bring it on
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,922 Points:1,574,980 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:10:55 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse we need to use more cng
Dragnet Champion Author Arizona Posts:15,401 Points:2,907,785 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:10:24 PM Ignore Dragnet Report Abuse What horizon and who does it belong to?
serrog Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:5,559 Points:1,511,155 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:06:33 PM Ignore serrog Report Abuse not 4 me
MG_Sputnik Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:7,303 Points:1,959,615 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:05:11 PM Ignore MG_Sputnik Report Abuse I've had CNG all night.
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,562 Points:1,770,920 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:03:39 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse I hope CNG takes off and remains affordable. Is that possible?
Gas4Gore Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,411 Points:421,925 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:01:13 PM Ignore Gas4Gore Report Abuse okay
armey Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,296 Points:310,255 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 10:59:20 PM Ignore armey Report Abuse Well!
tdmedan All-Star Author Colorado Posts:580 Points:148,945 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 10:53:13 PM Ignore tdmedan Report Abuse ok
knot2swift Champion Author Calgary Posts:4,379 Points:696,025 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 10:53:04 PM Ignore knot2swift Report Abuse Well...It's coming. But really, you all should have asked for it 10 years ago. Demanded it 5 years ago. The US is so slow that there is a reason the rest of us in the world feels the 21st. century belongs to China. Take a back seat as China right now is looking to buy out Natural Gas Plays from us in Canada. Money talks...Bull$hit walks. [Edited by: knot2swift at 11/26/2012 10:55:31 PM EST]
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,014 Points:1,486,655 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 10:49:11 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse Go, more vehicle choice and fuel competition