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Closing an Auto Plant: Toyota’s Side of the Story

N.Y. Times Letters to the Editor -- Toyota objects to the picture of the situation at the New United Motor Manufacturing Inc. plant in Fremont, Calif., that Bob Herbert presents (“Workers Crushed by Toyota,” column, March 16).

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Submitted Mar 20, 2010 By: coughlin

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cardjcsk Champion Author Toronto Posts:2,420 Points:1,014,215 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 8:10:50 AM Ignore cardjcsk Report Abuse WOW You don't see that often
RichardoB Champion Author Fayetteville Posts:2,966 Points:1,066,210 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 8:10:43 AM Ignore RichardoB Report Abuse Since when is a letter to the editor at the New York Times news?
Eichhornchen Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,731 Points:533,890 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 8:10:37 AM Ignore Eichhornchen Report Abuse was a strange place for a plant
mandoid Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:2,892 Points:614,290 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 8:09:22 AM Ignore mandoid Report Abuse Workers Crushed by Toyota - its not welfare, its a for profit business
cruisingtx Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,201 Points:527,695 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 8:06:09 AM Ignore cruisingtx Report Abuse No surprise!
dan30thz28 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,267 Points:1,054,425 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 8:05:21 AM Ignore dan30thz28 Report Abuse With all their problems too, who could blame them?
racerdj Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:4,910 Points:1,080,060 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 8:05:00 AM Ignore racerdj Report Abuse There are always two sides of the story.
gasandgoAL Champion Author Alabama Posts:1,936 Points:611,455 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 8:04:47 AM Ignore gasandgoAL Report Abuse wouldn't want any partnership with government motors
Bus561 Champion Author Lexington Posts:11,487 Points:2,242,625 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:59:18 AM Ignore Bus561 Report Abuse I don't blame Toyota one bit for closing this plant and moving it to Texas. GM backed out, California is expensive to operate in and Texas is more centrally located.
cigarman409 All-Star Author Massachusetts Posts:823 Points:877,885 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:58:52 AM Ignore cigarman409 Report Abuse the real world,welcome to profits!
BeaverBilly Champion Author Alberta Posts:4,980 Points:1,575,735 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:58:37 AM Ignore BeaverBilly Report Abuse Guess they will have to work hard to improve customer confidence.
afghaned Champion Author Hamilton Posts:4,353 Points:310,825 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:55:30 AM Ignore afghaned Report Abuse So does the public get to decide where & when a company builds these days? What happened to the owners having the right to keep the business profitable so presently employed workers could continue to do so. Narrow mindedness!!!
PhilMils Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,131 Points:451,800 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:52:13 AM Ignore PhilMils Report Abuse It really is an odd place to place a plant like this. Don't like what's happening, but can't do anything about it. Long ago I found I don't care for either GM or Toyota cars.
TeachR06 Champion Author Raleigh Posts:3,535 Points:1,012,760 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:50:56 AM Ignore TeachR06 Report Abuse A business has to do what it has to do to appease stock holders and hold the bottom line.
FocusGuy Champion Author Seattle Posts:2,106 Points:455,425 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:50:36 AM Ignore FocusGuy Report Abuse ask me if I feel bad for Toyota?
slgas Champion Author Houston Posts:1,042 Points:585,665 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:50:25 AM Ignore slgas Report Abuse While this is just a letter to the editor from Toyota, it would be nice to hear from GM too. Seems like maybe Toyota is taking the high road here.
fcdriver Champion Author Tennessee Posts:2,849 Points:599,520 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:49:29 AM Ignore fcdriver Report Abuse thats just the way it is in the real world of business
VetteFan Champion Author Indiana Posts:4,861 Points:1,064,495 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:48:58 AM Ignore VetteFan Report Abuse Buy American, get our people working as those companies can expand.
danny999 Champion Author Florida Posts:3,691 Points:660,910 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:48:10 AM Ignore danny999 Report Abuse GM AND THE UNION KEEPS GOING FOR THE JUGGLER.I WOULDN'T BUY A GM CAR IF IT WAS FREE.
Wizrd03 Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,218 Points:660,555 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:47:25 AM Ignore Wizrd03 Report Abuse Costs are always part of the financial equation. Why anyone would want to do business in California is beyond me. Add the US labor costs in and the plant's a looser.
turbodog Champion Author Mississippi Posts:1,813 Points:389,200 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:44:39 AM Ignore turbodog Report Abuse Can't fault them for leaving a plant where costs are too high.
REKEY Champion Author South Carolina Posts:3,642 Points:729,475 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:44:11 AM Ignore REKEY Report Abuse Starting to trickle down to employees now.
Marson Champion Author Scranton Posts:4,379 Points:1,144,820 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:43:30 AM Ignore Marson Report Abuse I will never own a Toyota.
katmandue Champion Author Detroit Posts:3,150 Points:1,171,755 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:43:29 AM Ignore katmandue Report Abuse It was bound to happen
ArmydudeNC Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,196 Points:401,870 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:41:48 AM Ignore ArmydudeNC Report Abuse Toyota's image continues to take a beating.
dar 1 Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,080 Points:212,150 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:39:07 AM Ignore dar 1 Report Abuse Sooo sad.
JuliusRex Veteran Author Orlando Posts:401 Points:123,750 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:38:12 AM Ignore JuliusRex Report Abuse Wow. Surprise, Toyota is closing a plant that is losing money. GM already turned tail and ran, but Toyota is just being cowardly. How dare they not support our workers who have grown to depend on the jobs Toyota offered them. We should force Toyota to keep this factory open. Better still we should force this evil company out of the country, and then let GM or Chrysler take this plant over. I mean they are worker friendly, right?
subnuke Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,788 Points:563,900 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:37:24 AM Ignore subnuke Report Abuse This situation is true and came up long before the accelerator business.
waynemustang Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,213 Points:842,350 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:34:27 AM Ignore waynemustang Report Abuse Bob Herbert is the worst propagandist.
MikLamb Champion Author Texas Posts:3,058 Points:1,201,190 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:32:40 AM Ignore MikLamb Report Abuse Does anyone actually believe anything Toyota says these days?
Ringmaster2008 Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,937 Points:501,460 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:32:16 AM Ignore Ringmaster2008 Report Abuse Sound management sometimes have to make difficult decisions. Better to close 1 plant than go bankrupt like some of the others.
JCUBE Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,551 Points:948,150 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:28:04 AM Ignore JCUBE Report Abuse GM screwing up the works here too? First SAAB, Saturn, Hummer, Pontiac' Oldsmobile. They're as inept as the clowns in Washington......must run in the family.
reb4 Champion Author Chicago Posts:7,510 Points:845,370 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:27:33 AM Ignore reb4 Report Abuse Government Motors should have stepped in and contributed equally... heck all they have to do is print more money!
rippinusoff Champion Author Lexington Posts:2,474 Points:513,490 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:24:50 AM Ignore rippinusoff Report Abuse and so this article is the "downfall" of Toyota... nope, I don't think so
nb52 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,872 Points:579,040 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:22:18 AM Ignore nb52 Report Abuse Shoddy reporting by Bob Herbert - sounds like he has an "agenda".
tankneverfull Champion Author Charlotte Posts:4,232 Points:828,520 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:10:09 AM Ignore tankneverfull Report Abuse In desperate times it seems if everyone is mad about something.
zdn Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,214 Points:316,230 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:08:20 AM Ignore zdn Report Abuse cant we all just get along even if ur jobless
WonderfulMI Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,855 Points:809,425 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:07:45 AM Ignore WonderfulMI Report Abuse This is an opinion letter from Toyota.
jeskibuff Champion Author Tampa Posts:2,597 Points:473,005 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:04:14 AM Ignore jeskibuff Report Abuse clement007 said: "Buy a FORD!" I have no reason to waste good money on such an inferior product.
diatzikis All-Star Author Raleigh Posts:718 Points:196,105 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:02:36 AM Ignore diatzikis Report Abuse So this is toyota's fault and not GM's?
olcowboy14 Champion Author Spokane Posts:4,670 Points:741,475 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 7:00:33 AM Ignore olcowboy14 Report Abuse Sounds like some car salesmen got involved here.
mlhog Veteran Author Minnesota Posts:289 Points:164,135 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:59:33 AM Ignore mlhog Report Abuse More good news for TOYota. lol
weenerdog Champion Author Detroit Posts:4,933 Points:941,895 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:58:13 AM Ignore weenerdog Report Abuse we knew it would happen when GM backed out
BrucePen Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,788 Points:593,745 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:54:50 AM Ignore BrucePen Report Abuse Taxes are to high on the left coast.
FieroGT Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:9,492 Points:1,654,370 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:54:39 AM Ignore FieroGT Report Abuse So Toyota is to blame if the plant is closed, not the GM White House. Politics ... yuck!
dave364 Champion Author Lansing Posts:1,316 Points:534,340 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:52:15 AM Ignore dave364 Report Abuse so sorry
stpetebp Champion Author Tampa Posts:2,924 Points:842,940 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:47:38 AM Ignore stpetebp Report Abuse Simple Buy American Vehicles That Are Assembled Here In The US.
14of45SSR Champion Author Saskatchewan Posts:2,107 Points:473,305 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:45:37 AM Ignore 14of45SSR Report Abuse Maybe that is the plant where all the defects are coming from!
AvantiMick Champion Author Indiana Posts:8,016 Points:1,601,470 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:44:03 AM Ignore AvantiMick Report Abuse Foreign companies are NOT concerned with American workers, they are worried about the money!
cheapertvs Champion Author Richmond Posts:5,190 Points:1,766,270 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:40:28 AM Ignore cheapertvs Report Abuse If I understand this issue correctly, Toyota is pulling out of NUMMI for economic reasons fostered by the pull out of GM from the joint venture. It is not reasonable to expect Toyota to continue to absorb the costs that were to be bourne together by GM and Toyota. Toyota may indeed have been producing a lot more product in this plant after the pull out of GM. This may have become the case due to Toyota actively attempting to reduce losses from running the plant on its own. If California is truly interested in keeping the NUMMI operation open, they would be actively searching for a partner for Toyota to replace GM in this joint venture. There are other viable players in this market and it is not reasonable for California to just curse the darkness instead of lighting a candle.
dhawk24 Champion Author Maine Posts:3,058 Points:673,430 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:38:03 AM Ignore dhawk24 Report Abuse Buy American...